NewsConnoisseur asks DavidOAtkins to step aside for good of country

I saw DavidOAtkins tweet that he wanted to kick some democratic politician out of office. Knowing that DavidOAtkins supports Obama even though Obama orders assassinations of American citizens without trials, I wondered what the politician did that could have been worse than what Obama has done. My initial question lead to a discussion that was very depressing.
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David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
CA Senator Alex Padilla is now at the top of my "kick out the bad dem" target list. Who will join me?
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins What did he do that so upset you? Was it worse than assassinating citizens without trials?
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur yeah, given that I don't particularly care where Al-Awlaki happened to be born except as legal precedent.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins Not sure I understand what you mean by this. Would you care if Obama assassinated me without a trial too?
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur Padilla was one of two CA Dem senators from easy blue districts who ducked a vote on single-payer, stopping it in CA.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins Skipping vote on health care policy is clearly worse than depriving some 1 of their life w/out due process.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur if i declared war on US, encouraged terror attacks and hid in Yemen, i wouldn't expect place of birth to save me.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins So if president Gingrich declares you a terrorist, he can just take you out. Ur cool with that. No need for trials. So. Sick.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins Remember - everything the executive branch tells you is true.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur no. I expect due process and arrest unless i'm hiding in a lawless land where arrest would involve a risky SEAL operation.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins I don't see the word "unless" anywhere in the 5th amendment. Must have missed it. Oops.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur i agree. it's a problem. but that's the weakness of the outdated nation-state model in the 21st century.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins if u think 5th amndmnt needs 2b updated w clause that starts w "unless", there's a process 4 that. Instead, u just disregard.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@newsconnoisseur when you're president, then you can make the decision to send in the SEALs to make an arrest.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins Um, okay. Yes, that's exactly what I would have done. Are SEALS incapable of arresting people? I don't get your point.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@newconnoisseur you think the U.S. never covertly killed U.S. born spies during the Cold War overseas when arrest was impossible?
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
Shorter @DavidOAtkins: "Gov probably illegally executed Americans in the past so I'm fine w more illegal executions in the present." Huh?
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins Is this really your argument? Omigod. This country is doomed.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur no, no more than it was doomed after Korematsu. We'll get through this, too. Legal framework for intl terror needs work.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins I feel so reassured now, thx! Wish I knew this during the Bush yrs. Wouldnt have fussed so much about chronic lawbreaking
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@newsconnoisseur if you hide in a foreign country and make it a major pain in the rear to bring you in, don't be surprised at the result.
David Atkins @DavidOAtkins
@NewsConnoisseur totalitarianism is a threat to guard against always. i just don't see al-awlaki as a big danger zone. FISA is bigger.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur
@DavidOAtkins U think wiretapping is a bigger threat than murdering?
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Joe @NewsConnoisseur 31/01/2012 18:38:30 WIB
I did some very modest rearranging of tweets just to make it easier to know what tweets were being replied to.
Joe @NewsConnoisseur 01/02/2012 06:30:04 WIB
the conversation continued a bit, so I appended a few additional tweets
Joe @NewsConnoisseur 01/02/2012 21:05:31 WIB
fixed the chain of tweets a little.
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