My Discussion with @emptywheel on #NDAA Issues (and #Greenwald (again))

This is the relatively civil conversation that Marcy Wheeler and I had about issues relating to the #NDAA that led to the entirely uncivil suggestion from Glenn Greenwald that I'm such a loathesome Obama apologist that I would even defend Obama if Obama were to "rape a nun on live TV." Read More
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Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
The Great Emptywheel Goalpost Shift has commenced. RT @vdaze: Oh dear god. We're not done yet, kids. http://t.co/XxXauPC4
emptywheel @emptywheel
@gracels No. As I (and bill supporters) have said repeatedly. However, DC District already gutted habeas, so good luck! http://t.co/jCXjiaEA
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
PERFIDY!! RT @emptywheel: I guess NY Eve news dump was just the indefinite detainer in chief's idea of telling us to start drinking early.
emptywheel @emptywheel
@gracels Oh. I see. The near universal concern about Latif among lawyers is just made up then?
emptywheel @emptywheel
@gracels You're okay detaining someone forever based on memo that misrepresents his identity and includes significant errors? That's habeas?
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
I can honestly say that I don’t understand what the fuck emptywheel is on about. #NDAA #p2 #TFY
(((Grace Lidia Suárez))) @gracels
@emptywheel Latif is what I expected from very conservative Rogers Brown. Yes, I fear that is what habeas has become. Not happy, realistic.
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
It makes no goddamn sense. She is srsly confused. RT @OsborneInk: .@AngryBlackLady @allanbrauer This is bonkers. http://t.co/RAKpwYiX
emptywheel @emptywheel
@gracels Agree it's predictable Rogers Brown. But also means that's what habeas is. I've always said DC Circuit gutted habeas, not Congress
emptywheel @emptywheel
@gracels Nevertheless, given that JRB HAS gutted habeas, it makes the notion of indefinite detention more dangerous.
@g_p_g
@AngryBlackLady So it's @ggreenwald and @emptywheel who don't understand NDAA, but you do?! Lol, that'll be the day......
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
@g_p_g @AngryBlackLady @emptywheel And the ACLU, too - but she's too cowardly to attack them: reveals what she is http://t.co/KU0WXmf1
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
pfft RT @ggreenwald: @[me] @emptywheel And the ACLU, too - but she's too cowardly to attack them: reveals what she is http://t.co/RnC03Fi1
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
yes. i am. RT @emptywheel: @AngryBlackLady Again, are you even remotely aware of last 2 years of habeas developments in DC Circuit?
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
.@emptywheel notably, your post on Latif gets the court’s ruling in Latif wrong. For starters.
emptywheel @emptywheel
@AngryBlackLady OK. So you agree that FACT is that people are currently being detained indefinitely based on obviously false reports.
emptywheel @emptywheel
@AngryBlackLady Uh huh. That's why so many lawyers who actually follow this linked it.
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
.@ggreenwald @g_p_g @emptywheel The ACLU press release does not bother mentioning Obama’s statement about military detention of citizens.
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
ACLU lawyers are infallible! Who knew? RT @emptywheel: @[me] Uh huh. That's why so many lawyers who actually follow this linked it.
emptywheel @emptywheel
@AngryBlackLady Uh, how about Lawfare lawyers, the same ones you guys have linked?
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady
.@emptywheel How you can claim that the reports in Latif are “obviously false” when most of the decision was redacted is simply amazing.
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Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady 03/01/2012 00:13:52 WIB
added tweet at request of Marcy Wheeler.
Imani Gandy @AngryBlackLady 03/01/2012 00:42:44 WIB
At Marcy Wheeler's request, I've added a discussion between her and @gracels regarding the same issue.
emptywheel @emptywheel 03/01/2012 00:56:55 WIB
Thanks, ABL. Since you included that one @gracels tweet, I just figured it made sense to either include all of none of @gracels' and my conversation. Appreciate it.
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