"The Wrath Of The Feminists" : A Discussion of Masculinity, Gender, and Feminism

A Discussion of Masculinity, Gender, and Feminism with @jennpozner, @TMatlack, @hugoschwyzer @amandamarcotte @shiratarrant, @feministfather, @therealroseanne and others.
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@TMatlack

Why can’t women accept men for who they really are? Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine? http://t.co/qjkXQH8L

15/12/2011 19:47:01 WIB
Jennifer L. Pozner @jennpozner

That's the wrong question, @TMatlack bec it rests on assumption that there's only 1 way to be "truly masculine." Many ways. #letthebinarygo

15/12/2011 19:52:32 WIB
@TMatlack

@jennpozner not at all. My point is that men need to be allowed to be themselves rather than viewed as wrong by women

15/12/2011 20:01:59 WIB
Jennifer L. Pozner @jennpozner

That's not what u tweeted, @TMatlack. U asked "Is a good man more like a woman or more truly masculine?" Gender essentialism helps no one.

15/12/2011 20:05:45 WIB
Jennifer L. Pozner @jennpozner

Rigid assumptions about ways men & women should/shouldn't behave or "truly are," @TMatlack, punish anyone (m/f/or trans) who doesn't adhere.

15/12/2011 20:09:29 WIB
@TMatlack

@jennpozner female dominates gender discussion gets us nowhere

15/12/2011 20:29:41 WIB
@TMatlack

@jennpozner before you accuse me of punishing anyone look at the hundreds of voices we have published on GMP. Good is purely self defined

15/12/2011 20:33:16 WIB
@TMatlack

@jennpozner and check out my FB profile on transgender please

15/12/2011 20:34:08 WIB
Jennifer L. Pozner @jennpozner

I didn't accuse you of anything, @TMatlack. I just pushed back on yr binary tweet asking if a good man is "like a woman or truly masculine."

15/12/2011 20:44:36 WIB
Jennifer L. Pozner @jennpozner

& @TMatlack I never suggested anything negative about your good work &that of authors GMP publishes. Literally only responded to your words.

15/12/2011 20:47:52 WIB
@TMatlack

Women are more willing than men to talk about manhood. Why such a passionate outcry by women about men? http://t.co/qjkXQH8L

15/12/2011 21:49:01 WIB
@TMatlack

@jennpozner I was quoting a longer article. Please take in context

15/12/2011 22:09:14 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

http://t.co/3i9ELVA2 @tmatlack Your view of men and women in this piece doesn't reflect any men or women I know.

15/12/2011 23:02:18 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@tmatlack I particularly hate hearing that the basic urge to drink/eat/fuck/be lazy is something women don't struggle with.

15/12/2011 23:03:14 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@tmatlack Would you say I'm a "dude"? I curse a lot and don't like mommy telling me what to do, either.

15/12/2011 23:04:22 WIB
Clarity @plerf

@AmandaMarcotte @tmatlack Mine either. Is this what happens when you worship sports? Dude?

15/12/2011 23:05:29 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@plerf @tmatlack For all men feel constrained, imagine what it's like to be a woman, and the one expected to not even have those urges.

15/12/2011 23:10:43 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@Gaius_Publius @tmatlack I've just honestly never had that sitcom existence where I'm like, "Gah! Why do they think sex is so great?" Uh....

15/12/2011 23:14:36 WIB
Kate Harding @KateHarding

I've liked The Good Men Project in the past, but come on. "Women, who are basically all the same, need to learn to see men as individuals!"

15/12/2011 23:16:41 WIB
Kate Harding @KateHarding

And yeah, I have kind of a major pet peeve about guys who extrapolate feeling henpecked by one woman to "Women just won't let men be men."

15/12/2011 23:18:17 WIB
Kate Harding @KateHarding

I have yet to meet a straight feminist who doesn't want her partner to have his own space, his own friends, and his own opinions.

15/12/2011 23:19:14 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@KateHarding What bothers me is that most women would also love a wife who cleans, cooks, takes care of you and asks for nothing in return.

15/12/2011 23:19:17 WIB
Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte

@KateHarding We just were never led to believe that was a possibility, so we can't cry "henpecked" when we don't get it.

15/12/2011 23:20:14 WIB
@TMatlack

@hugoschwyzer do you assume all black people are felons since they commit more crimes on average than white people? http://t.co/nhVHnbfv

15/12/2011 23:20:33 WIB
@TMatlack

@AmandaMarcotte I didn't say that. I said that is the stereotype of men in Bud Light commercials et al.

15/12/2011 23:21:57 WIB
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