Arguing with an #OWS Supporter About Voting -- I've Lost My Will to Live

I'm still not convinced this woman, with whom I spent several hours arguing in a circle, wasn't punking me. As I see it, I claimed early on that voting is necessary but not sufficient. She claimed that voting isn't always effective and that civil disobedience can be effective absent voting. She cited Gandhi, Berlin Wall, and something else... I don't know. None of it made sense to me. Read More
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Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar Do you think Time magazine would be focusing on income &wealth inequality this week w/o #OWS?
Imani Gandy 🔥 @AngryBlackLady
@djcnorwich @LauraShezBar What does that have to do with anything? My criticism is directed not at #ows, but at a specific subsect of #ows.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady #ows is a very important movement but extremes on both sides right- tea party, left-anarchists trying 2 coopt
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar Do you know any other movement besides #ows that has spread worldwide in 8 weeks?
Imani Gandy 🔥 @AngryBlackLady
And your point is...? RT @djcnorwich: @[me] @LauraShezBar Do you know any other movement besides #ows that has spread worldwide in 8 weeks?
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar Do you think 1,000,000 people would have moved their accounts from big banks w/o #OWS?
Imani Gandy 🔥 @AngryBlackLady
Did you know the human head weighs 8 lbs? MT @djcnorwich: @[me] Do you think 1M ppl wld have moved their accts from big banks w/o #OWS?
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar I understand them thinking that voting doesn't matter when politicians are bought.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@AngryBlackLady @djcnorwich we are not against #OWS we 99%. We r against extremes trying to present it as anti-govt entity. No anarchy !
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @AngryBlackLady Anarchy is just being leaderless. And #OWS is working that way.
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @angryblacklady It is the inclusion of all viewpoints and open debate that makes #ows so valuable.
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar Politicians cannot respond to people when dependent on corporations to get elected.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady voting is paramount on the democratic process. Protests and voting together will change things
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@AngryBlackLady @LauraShezBar ,y point is that #OWS is being effective, even when not voting.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady so u want to overthrow the govt? That O's traitorous. Legal peaceful protest in 1960's with voting=civil rights
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @angryblacklady These are legal, too. And they have been treated by police same as 60's protests, with violence.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady u so easily give away your right to vote where ppl around the world dying for that right -get real man
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady I want leaders, I want govt, I want govt oversight and regulation .i love govt
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @angryblacklady No, I do vote. I leave that for each #OWS er to decide for themselves.
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @angryblacklady Voting will not work when politicians are bought by big money and must follow their wishes.
Donna Carty/weaver @djcnorwich
@LauraShezBar @angryblacklady I will also continue to tell all politicians that they must give up corporate $ to assure my vote.
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady democracy without structure and leadership is lawless mob rule, chaos !
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady and just think more effective combined with voting. Not all politicians have evil motives thinking childish
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady write our reps to innact campaign finance reform. Al sorts of way 2 be an activist not just sleeping in a park
MagicLaura @LauraShezBar
@djcnorwich @angryblacklady look I support #ows & also support prez Obama and Dems. Think prob is mcconnel as his fillabuster not Obama/dems
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Lisa Rowe @txvoodoo 12/11/2011 03:30:02 WIB
LOL she wants Denmark. Where they're having a lovely renaissance in abjuration of human rights and prejudcie towars Jews and Muslims. YAY.
Emilia1956 @Emilia1956 12/11/2011 08:32:10 WIB
She wants Scandinavian countries where taxes are a mile high on everyone. Does she think universal healthcare in those countries is FREE? It's not. Taxes pay for it. Jeez, she's from Charlottesville too.
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