Monarchy, Presidents, and Ethics

A friendly conversation about differing political arrangements.
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Andrew @timeoutcorner

A #NewConstitution must limit the power of the Presidency, and provide a permanent separation between the legislature and the judiciary.

15/10/2011 01:44:31 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner Maybe take a look at other democraticl systems. Ours e.g. allows even small parties to have their share of influence.

15/10/2011 01:46:05 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner i think the german system is kinda ok. At least noone complains about it :D i like especially this: http://t.co/jMREvNlW

15/10/2011 01:50:23 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner our president isn't really head of state but more like a neutral backup if things get f* up :)

15/10/2011 01:52:33 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ I admire the German system, it is quite sensible. Like most things German.

15/10/2011 01:54:32 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ A ceremonial President is a powerful institution, much like a constitutional monarch. I am a monarchist, but I'd accept. :)

15/10/2011 01:55:15 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner ah, things are f*d up everyhwere :) and always will be. But I can recommend some things which are quite ok here :D

15/10/2011 01:55:29 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner i won't demand the US to change constitution, though. It's US ppls choice. Not my right to interfere :)

15/10/2011 01:58:06 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ Ha! Fucked-up-ness is variable. Some forms are less undesirable than others. Hence, for me, constitutional monarchy.

15/10/2011 01:58:53 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ Yes, it has problems. But in hindsight, it would have been better to stick with the British Crown than corporate hegemony.

15/10/2011 01:59:16 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ No, really. Please demand it. Scream for it. God knows the US has committed genocide because it doesn't like constitutions.

15/10/2011 01:59:50 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner monarchist o_o nah, monarchs are WAY too expensive. Also not elected. #inequality

15/10/2011 02:00:12 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ Turn about is fair play. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and all that. ;)

15/10/2011 02:00:33 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner i could have become german president. but i could never become monarch in another country. so monarchy is inequality.

15/10/2011 02:01:10 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ LOL That's actually incorrect. the Canadian Crown costs about $1.25 per Canadian. US White House? No one knows. #Spooky.

15/10/2011 02:01:11 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner No. It's not my duty nor my right to tell my neighbours how to plant their gardens. :) As long as they don't affect me w/ it.

15/10/2011 02:02:05 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ No, monarchy does not equal inequality. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, The Netherlands are monarchies and are highly egalitarian.

15/10/2011 02:02:26 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ Hahaha! Well, to clarify, I'm a US citizen. US-Occupied British Columbia = Washington state. #shrug

15/10/2011 02:04:25 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner look at iceland. they changed their constitution. reasonably. w/o making a big set-up drama like OWS :)

15/10/2011 02:04:26 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner yes, but not everyone can become that. also it feeds the whole royal family. not just the king/queen.

15/10/2011 02:05:14 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner and last but not least: monarchs families suffer. the kids growing up in those families have several problems.

15/10/2011 02:06:12 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ I admire Iceland highly. I hope they continue to see great success! :D

15/10/2011 02:06:38 WIB
Andrew @timeoutcorner

@_Golden_Rule_ And the families of politicans don't suffer? :) Hollow argument, as is the cost, IMO. All governments cost. :)

15/10/2011 02:07:29 WIB
Justice Duck @_Golden_Rule_

@timeoutcorner hm, i think the gun thing should be changed in a new constitution, but maybe it's too late and ppl wouldn't want it changed.

15/10/2011 02:07:31 WIB
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