#edchatie Number 68

A weekly discussion by Irish educators. This week's topic: "Standardised Testing" Mon 24th September, 2012
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fboss @fboss
Rain got you down? Tonight's #edchatie discussion on "Standardised Testing" should cheer you up. See you online from 8.30-9.30pm
Simon Lewis @simonmlewis
My problem with std. testing at primary is, we will have to publish results to the DES thus the beginnings of league tables #edchatie
iamreddave @iamreddave
@simonmlewis what wrong with league tables? If people understand statistics and reasoning about marginal change they seem fine #edchatie
fboss @fboss
@simonmlewis Are you talking about the School Self Evaluation there Simon? Never thought of league tables @ Primary level. #edchatie
Simon Lewis @simonmlewis
@iamreddave league tables essentially encourage cherry-picking and teaching to the test, neither desirable outcomes #edchatie
Ewan McIntosh @ewanmcintosh
Student teachers and formative assessment: gathering a pedagogical toolbox: http://t.co/5UIQrjX4 | #edchat #edchatie #cpchat
iamreddave @iamreddave
@simonmlewis that is Luke saying hospitals aren't the sole cause of death so we shouldnt measure hospital hygiene standards #edchatie
iamreddave @iamreddave
@simonmlewis it is if the test is the ability to read. A very low standard is being missed by 1/4 this shouldn't be hidden #edchatie
Simon Lewis @simonmlewis
@iamreddave Children's test results don't show ability of current teacher. Need to use correct measurement tool. #edchatie
fboss @fboss
RT @ewanmcintosh: Student teachers and formative assessment: gathering a pedagogical toolbox: http://t.co/5UIQrjX4 | #edchat #edchatie # ...
fboss @fboss
In 2 hours tonight's #edchatie discussion on "Standardised Testing" Come along and share your thoughts. See you online from 8.30-9.30pm
iamreddave @iamreddave
@dbulfin11 year old that can speak Eng should be able to read it. Otherwise they have been done a grave disservice by the state #edchatie
iamreddave @iamreddave
@dbulfin hiding illiteracy is doing no one favours. Not the student, not teachers, not the state, not the population #edchatie
iamreddave @iamreddave
@simonmlewis basic literacy must be the minimum acceptable level. Surely testing that isn't asking too much? #edchatie
Simon Lewis @simonmlewis
@iamreddave Only useful with baseline data. Children don't all start at the same point nor do they continue at the same speed. #edchatie
fboss @fboss
@simonmlewis @iamreddave Agree.We looking @ standardising students or teaching for set standards?Not all on same page/exam paper #edchatie
iamreddave @iamreddave
@fboss I'm saying that if at 11 you can't read you've been failed. And not by 1 teacher. We need to know where this is happening #edchatie
Nicki @OLNicki
I’m sure tonight’s #edchatie will be fascinating. I look forward to catching up tomorrow. Happy tweeting all!
fboss @fboss
In 4 mins tonight's #edchatie discussion on "Standardised Testing" begins. Come along and share your thoughts.
Ciara Reilly @PrimEdTeacher
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fboss @fboss
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fboss @fboss
Welcome to tonights #edchatie As usual, before we start, please introduce yourself
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