The Emergence of State: Karl Marx was Wrong

Cause of political order's changing in society doesn't rely on Marx's economic determination.
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Jabal Sab @JabalSab

You can distinguish religions and cultures only because you guarantee everyone get a piece of cake in the same size. Not gonna work dude..

18/08/2012 08:01:52 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

I have to sleep. See u again Marx, and Marxists. Just to proof that you were (are for Marxists) wrong. :p

18/08/2012 07:46:29 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

...A system that could maintain the conquered land and its people, the modernization of war equipment, the system ... http://t.co/KvMhSIw1

18/08/2012 07:45:16 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

The consolidation of tribes into bigger community to fight others, maintaining the land and invasion is the main ... http://t.co/1wYdzIm7

18/08/2012 07:43:38 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Okay, finish about the first reason, religion. The second is the need of warfare. That might be the main factor ... http://t.co/9xuVCRuh

18/08/2012 07:41:23 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

How could Karl Marx explained about the social class in Madinah state? Anshar and Muhajirin, which one ruling working class? :p

18/08/2012 07:38:26 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

.....Both values and law has the same source and the same goal and function. It works in synergy and almost without contradiction.

18/08/2012 07:35:34 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

....While Islam has the comprehensive values to change the old one, helped with the force of law....

18/08/2012 07:33:50 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Islam was influencing Madina as a society in changing norms and values through religion and people accepted it as truth....

18/08/2012 07:26:06 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

the Madinah state had transforming the society and changing values, norms. Even habits. 2 reasons why the process is settled constantly:

18/08/2012 07:21:59 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

With the legitimacy that the Prophet achieved, he had the rights to enforce the people to obey the law. Fulfilling the definition of state.

18/08/2012 07:18:36 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

..Prophet Muhammad succeeded in consolidating tribes in Madinah. Brought a new values, creating law with the Quran as the main source.

18/08/2012 07:14:45 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

In another case, the religion successfully become the cause of state's emergence. Ex: Arabian Peninsula where Islam is the cause.

18/08/2012 07:07:57 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

In ancient times beliefs system is playing a central role in transforming band level society into a bigger community sharing d same lineage.

18/08/2012 07:00:40 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

If you believe in equal wealth distribution in communist system, then you are not an atheist. You worship your Communist Party's Chairman.

18/08/2012 06:49:31 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

The one who deny the importance of production is better not to consume anything.

18/08/2012 06:45:47 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Human fought for his individual liberation while Karl Marx fought for a natural form of human society. Homo sapien society.

18/08/2012 05:23:21 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

....Because the state itself has the rules, regulation and values which is contradicting to norms and values from kinship-tribal tradition.

18/08/2012 05:18:53 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

The society that take root from kinship-tribal based tradition is proven failed to perform well as a modern state...

18/08/2012 05:15:17 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Since human are basically communal. They evolve to become an individual by creating a modern society out of kinship and tribal linked....

18/08/2012 05:10:09 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Human are basically communal primates. Just like their ancestor, homo sapien.

18/08/2012 05:04:08 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

Locke and Montesqiue and other classical liberal thinker also failed to comprehend the social contract...

18/08/2012 05:03:04 WIB
Jabal Sab @JabalSab

The biggest mistake of Karl Marx was a historical facts. Too much relying on Europe. In terms of time, he trapped in feudal-industrial era.

18/08/2012 05:01:26 WIB
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