Another day, another anonymous leak, another #emoprog freakout

Friends and I react to various news reports on a potential debt ceiling deal, and discuss options
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Laura @muhajabah
Read http://bit.ly/p1LVtI to understand what 14th amend. really says & then http://bit.ly/oKUALO to understand what options really are
Laura @muhajabah
Check out the programs I would choose to fund if the debt-limit is not increased: http://t.co/BX7Ig8E // also, try this tool, then weep
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
so I think here are the key things to consider as we wait for details if, indeed, there is a deal:
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
1) How big and what is included in the "across the board cuts" in the trigger? 2) how deep would medicare cuts be in trigger? ...
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3) How big would defense cuts be in trigger? 4) Can revenue be considered in the committee? Even Boehner's bill would have so it should ...
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5) What are the upfront $1 trillion in cuts?
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
there is clearly enough there to get Dems to deal. Anything w/o revenues would be. But is there enough to make GOP deal?
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
specifically: would they be willing to swallow the included Defense cuts in the trigger to get the other cuts and avoid raising taxes?
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
and like a couple people have said, we've had reports that there was a deal before and it hasn't panned out so...we'll see
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj also, what kind of Medicare cuts? To hospitals, or benefit cuts? They'd already identified good chunk of non-ben cuts before
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj if they were really cunning it would be to war costs
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah i wouldn't think the GOP would go for that but we'll see
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj yeah I don't think so either but it's the same number so I couldn't help but think of it
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah the thing is that the trigger is SUPPOSED to be unacceptable to both sides
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah so large cuts, even to Medicare and SS was expected in the trigger. the catch is whether there is anything the GOP hates in it
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj I think that's what the defense cuts are supposed to be. Good point though. Chances of trigger going into effect seem high
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah well, and they would have to be large enough defense cuts that the GOP would prefer new revenues over those cuts, preferably
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah though if they're willing to allow certain defense cuts in the trigger but not revenue, then that seems kind of suspect
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj honestly at this point I'll take anything that's not TOO damaging. Which is what GOP count on. But still true
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah that's what happens when one side holds the nuke and is willing to detonate it
Laura @muhajabah
@fleetadmiralj yep, and the electorate gave them the bomb, so we need to take what we can get
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah and people are like "well, Obama has to push it to default to show he's serious" problem with that is they wouldn't find that BAD
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah they could simultaneously attack Obama for defaulting AND get what they want
[Citation Needed] 🇩 @fleetadmiralj
@muhajabah so Obama holding out and defaulting is basically letting the GOP have it's cake and eat it too
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