A chat w/ @jkelton1 @marabout40 @only4rm on deficits, cuts & politics

I start out by making some points about the politics of the debt ceiling increase, clarify my position, then end up in a big conversation w/ friends about entitlement reform from a LIBERAL perspective.
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Laura @muhajabah
Yesterday I tweeted a link to 1 & said public not buying GOP position, but Dems should take note too. Following tweets are notes for Dems.
Laura @muhajabah
Basic situation is that in 2 months, ppl opposed to debt ceiling increase hasn't budged from around 47%. Ppl supporting has increased tho.
Laura @muhajabah
Gallup's polling also shows no real change in views on deficit reduction w/ around 50% wanting mostly or all spending cuts.
Laura @muhajabah
About 32%-37% support a balanced solution like Dems want & this is about how many now support debt ceiling increase.
Laura @muhajabah
Dems have been effective in mobilizing support for debt ceiling increase among those holding sympathetic views on other issues.
Laura @muhajabah
But half the country isn't even open to Dem arguments & Dem support base is no more than about 40% of electorate. That's not leverage.
Laura @muhajabah
This is the legacy of 30 yrs of RW propaganda against "tax & spend Dems" & Dems are still digging out of a deep hole on it.
Laura @muhajabah
Also: I see debt ceiling increase as being like TARP was. Needs to be done but is distasteful & will never be popular with voters.
Laura @muhajabah
Even tho both Dems & GOP voted for TARP, GOP has been successful in attacking it, leaving Dems holding the bag. This harmed Dems in Nov '10
Laura @muhajabah
Obviously, GOP will attack debt ceiling increase even if they vote for it but there's a reason Dems want GOP to "buy in" to solution.
Laura @muhajabah
McConnell's proposal is ideal from GOP point of view; the necessary gets done but they can make Obama/Dems hold the bag for it.
Laura @muhajabah
I think voters understand better why debt ceiling increase is necessary than w/ TARP, but GOP still need to put some skin in the game.
Laura @muhajabah
It's not about bipartisanship as "let's all be friends". It's about making sure Dems don't take fall alone for unpopular action.
@JKelton1
@muhajabah why did we not even pause to consider it enough to find it distasteful for 30 some years?
Laura @muhajabah
@JKelton1 because Congress did it routinely so it never became news & most voters likely never knew about it
Laura @muhajabah
To reply to several ppl at once, increasing the debt ceiling was never news & most ppl didn't know about it. That's why it wasn't a problem.
@JKelton1
@muhajabah a lot of us knew, but it was not an issue until Obama. wait, was a fuss under Clinton. last Dem Pres. this is how they operate -
@JKelton1
@muhajabah I think Obama has calculated the issues, perhaps been on phone with China. it's time to call the bluff. Repubs know the cost of-
@JKelton1
@muhajabah -doing this. it's up to them. Obama won't back down, they have to own it. no wonder they freaking out. just like Clinton did.
ChickaDee @TheObamaphile
@muhajabah excellent analysis, Laura. Agree with your assessment.
Laura @muhajabah
@JKelton1 I agree with you, but the point I'm trying to make is that the public is not w/ the Dems on this issue therefore lack of leverage
@JKelton1
@muhajabah the leverage is not about the public in this case. Public wants tax increases, yes? overwhelmingly?
@JKelton1
@muhajabah the right has been talking of destroying the country. the bluff is called.
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