More Dialogue with @LtDanChoi

After a few day pause, Dan Choi responded to a tweet that pointed out then-candidate Obama made a statement opposing Prop 8 in California. Dan re-engaged the conversation, and we were off to the races. I have an interesting combative relationship with Dan, and here you see the difference in our mindsets and how we approach politics.
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@ltdanchoi
.@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail WHAT? Why'd he say GOD IS IN THE MIX? We can't afford to lose MN Marriage in 2012 like Prop8 2008.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Obama says what he says because he believes it. Obama doesn't decide MN elections. The ppl of MN do.
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail that granted, I do demand @BarackObama endorse marriage equality on moral grounds. Now.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail I ENCOURAGE @BarackObama to endorse marriage equality when he's ready. It's up to all of us, not him.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail You're not telling me anything I don't know about @barackobama Focus on what's in your power to control.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Send a Congress to DC that will vote to repeal DOMA. 435 elections for the House, 1/3 of Senate in 2012.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail @barackobama has already pledged to sign it. Congress Congress Congress. Focus.
@ltdanchoi
.@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail @barackobama In my understanding of our system, the people make demands of the elected officials.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Yes, Dan, and effective people focus their demands where they are strategically important.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail This ain't the military, and @barackobama doesn't just order Congress to do his bidding.
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail @barackobama In the African American CRM they were also told to get congress to like them; LBJ pushed.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Do you understand how different the control of Congress is today compared to LBJ's term?
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail yes. In that era the filibuster was even more insurmountable. Do you know MLK's true views of JFK?
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail It took the Civil Rights Movement, AND LBJ, AND an overwhelmingly Dem Congress. No single path or person
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Pardon me Dan, but the topic is repealing DOMA in 2011 with the Congress we have now.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Here's a handy chart. http://bit.ly/FuJvX If Obama had that Congress DOMA would be dead.
@ltdanchoi
.@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Professor Brauer, I enjoyed this book immensely, as we do learn from our history. http://t.co/niaUP28
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Are you meaning to say, the congress we had recently? His endorsement of Marriage: Congress decides?
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail I'm saying if Obama had a congress with D majorities like LBJ had, we'd be done with DOMA.
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail Pardon me, professor, but I thought the topic was @BarackObama endorsing Marriage Equality.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail I know that's what YOU want to talk about. I'm talking about the repeal of DOMA. Substance over symbol.
Allan Brauer @allanbrauer
.@ltdanchoi @frankyny @pnthrgrlgail The legislature legislates. @BarackObama signs it or vetoes it. Congress Congress Congress. Focus.
@ltdanchoi
Ultimately the marriage debate centers around this: some feel @BarackObama endorsing equality is a political negative. I disagree.
@ltdanchoi
@allanbrauer Granted. But that is not within our current spectrum. @BarackObama is in power now. I demand he endorse marriage now.
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Abe Rivera @arevireba 24/07/2011 14:19:00 WIB
@allanbrauer, that string of tweets was brilliant. I've long felt that Lt. Choi was well-meaning but petulant in his "demands." From Moscow Gay Pride to President Obama's role in DOMA, he cannot look past on his own idealism to understand how important
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