- 16/Dec/2011 07:30:44 AM PST+
"The Wrath Of The Feminists" : A Discussion of Masculinity, Gender, and Feminism
A Discussion of Masculinity, Gender, and Feminism with @jennpozner, @TMatlack, @hugoschwyzer @amandamarcotte @shiratarrant, @feministfather, @therealroseanne and others.
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@KateHarding Henpecked is code for "What happened to my privileges? Now I only have most of them. Where's the rest?" -
@AmandaMarcotte really? Have you read the 100s of men who have written first person stories on GMP? @lisahickey
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.@AmandaMarcotte I actually think I'd find that too creepy to appreciate, but maybe Rosie the Robot. (In any case, I take your point.)
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@TMatlack @hugoschwyzer Probably not since black men DON'T commit more crimes on average. They are arrested and prosecuted at higher rates.
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@AmandaMarcotte Yeah, good point.
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@AmandaMarcotte @tmatlack Real men don't fight strawmen
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@TMatlack @lisahickey Yeah, and a lot of them would benefit from trying to imagine for 5 minutes what it would be like to be female.
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@marstrina @AmandaMarcotte (And married lesbians don't necessarily get a wife either, where "wife"="free cook/maid.")
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@TMatlack The words "nag" and "henpecked" are gendered not because women push more, but because they're the ones shamed for it.
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@bethhicks0518 @hugoschwyzer but all men should be assumed to be rapists, until proven otherwise, because...???
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@gtra1n @AmandaMarcotte true George...
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@TMatlack I've met domineering wives, but they are tiny minority. Sitcoms thwart our perceptions of reality, I guess.
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@AmandaMarcotte @lisahickey WTF. So the only way to be a "good" man is to imagine how hard it is to be a woman? What a crock of shit.
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@TMatlack Imagining the POV of someone you're in conflict with is bare minimum of being a good person, yes.
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@TMatlack @amandamarcotte and 'being blamed for being a man' is a strawman
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@sweetmachineSP @AmandaMarcotte I have heard that before, and I can totally see it. Grrrr.
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@TMatlack When I have conflicts with a friend or partner, I do try---it's hard---to listen and see where they're coming from.
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@AmandaMarcotte just don't agree. let's *perhaps* try to see that both men and women are shamed/stereotyped and the point transcend that
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@TMatlack Do you not understand how the fear of rape is hammered into women from a youth? & that they are taught that THEY must prevent it?
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@TMatlack Stomping my foot and saying, "you don't understand me" without trying to understand them is childish.
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@AmandaMarcotte Chnge "thwarts" to "promotes" and I think you got it. Entertainment is part of the propaganda we have to swim in (seriously)
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@TMatlack And that the majority of rape is committed by men. Which doesn't make all men rapists. But it makes women scared to trust.
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@gtra1n @amandamarcotte setting up a preconceived notion of men being wrong is not a strawman
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@TMatlack Instead of blaming women for being scared in a world that tells them they have to be, hold men accountable. In a real way.
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Twice recently, I've witnessed this convo.
Married lesbian: "My wife..." Straight woman: "I need one of those!" ML: "Yeeeeah..." -
@AmandaMarcotte I am not stomping my foot. I have published 100s of men with profound stories. You are saying they are worthless...
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It bums me out that so many straight women A) don't realize what privileged bs that is, and B) hear "wife" and think "cook/maid."
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@TMatlack I didn't say that. Some of them could be far improved with a moment of trying to empathize with people they conflict with, tho.
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@AmandaMarcotte ... because their struggles don't account for women's struggles (which they do if you read them, many center on love)
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@TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte Yes, but in diff ways, Thomas. Both shamed into keeping their place—men if not on top; women if not below.
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@TMatlack @amandamarcotte As a man, I would say that's a perfect example of a strawman
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@bethhicks0518 why is that men's job rather than society's against the crime of rape?
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@TMatlack That a man has conflicts with other people makes him human. It doesn't mean men are oppressed by henpecking women.
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@TMatlack Especially not by henpecking women who simply fail to understand the urge to eat food, drink peer and have orgasms.
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@bethhicks0518 Hugo is saying all men are presumed rapists. I just find that no better than all blacks are criminals
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@AmandaMarcotte I never said women are henpeckers. I said women dominate emotional discourse and men need to step up ...
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@TMatlack No, he's saying that rape culture makes that so.
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@TMatlack With our inability to understand how you suffer with your urge to, let me quote, "eat, fuck, drink, and sleep." Sheesh.
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@TMatlack And for the record, when a woman doesn't presume a man is a rapist and gets raped, "society" asks, "Why wasn't she smarter?"
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@TMatlack Characterizing women as unable to understand the urge to "eat, fuck, drink, and sleep" and riding men about it is calling us nags.
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@AmandaMarcotte I thought you just said you too struggle with the urge to eat, fuck, drink, and sleep. at least we have that in common
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@TMatlack And in rape culture, men can't be raped, which is bullshit. THAT is the problem. And it's the role of everyone to dismantle it.
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@TMatlack " And god knows as guys we can, at times, live up to the stereotype of knuckle-draggers looking to eat, fuck, drink, and sleep. "
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@AmandaMarcotte well I have profound respect for you personally and would never call you a nag. Just saying.
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@TMatlack Which you then contrasted with women, who are so, you know, "emotional".
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@bethhicks0518 I have written extensively on the need to deal with sex trafficking, rape, and sexual misconduct. I totally agree on that.
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@TMatlack Men have not been asked to do their part. It can't be "don't walk alone at night" & "don't wear revealing clothing". Doesn't work.
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@TMatlack I have an alternate explanation for why women dominate discourse about domestic relations: it's assumed to be our job.
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@AmandaMarcotte Time for men to step up and find their voice. Why we have GMP.
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@TMatlack Good and thank you for discussing this with me.
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@bethhicks0518 we all need to solve the problem
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@TMatlack I agree, but leave the stereotypes out of it. Men are shamed out of speaking about these things, because it's gendered female.
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@TMatlack Much of what prevents men from doing X is fear of being called a pussy. That has nothing to do with domineering women.
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@AmandaMarcotte @TMatlack Don't all humans drag *those* knuckles? In my exp, yes.
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@TMatlack The image of a man cowering in front of his nagging wife was particularly strange and irrelevant.
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@TMatlack Exactly. In my mind @hugoschwyzer is talking about where we are now which is NOT where we want to be: a place of fear & distrust.
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@AmandaMarcotte Invented by men in the Jazz Age–Rosie the Riveter era to fight back against new women's freedoms. Cf Blondie (comic strip)
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@TMatlack I am going to take my own advice, however, and send your article to some dudes who will be frank w/ me and tell me what they think
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@AmandaMarcotte how would you know what prevents men from doing anything ?
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@TMatlack in the race analogy, men are white cops and women are black males in white neighborhoods. Think who has the power.
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@AmandaMarcotte thanks. Let me know what they say. Feel free to write rebuttal. We will pub. @lisahickey
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@hugoschwyzer nonsense. It's about blaming a group for individual actions.
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@TMatlack your daughter has a choice: she can accept a ride from a strange woman or strange man. Do you care? What advice do you give?
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@hugoschwyzer I founded GMP based on the power of individual men's stories of goodness, in all their diversity. You call us all rapists.
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@hugoschwyzer so it's just *white* males who are rapists?
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@hugoschwyzer I would not tell her to base it on gender. Don't get in cars with strangers period. Definitely not with anyone named Amanda
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@TMatlack I nver called all men rapists. I said women can't be faulted for being suspicious of all men, based on our collective track record
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@AmandaMarcotte @tmatlack exactly Amanda, men police each other all day long.. And loudly. Thomas has to know that is true.
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@TMatlack This analogy is SO spurious. Please don't use it tom argue ur point if u want POC to have any part in what ur doing. @hugoschwyzer
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@sjjphd @hugoschwyzer groups aren't guilty. Individuals are.
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@AmandaMarcotte @ewellone how about we judge individuals rather than genders or races ?
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Article may b gr8. But, your tweet was its own context. Y so defensive? RT @TMatlack I was quoting a longer article. Please take in context
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@jennpozner because I being attacked to be honest. Read my tweet stream.
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Wait, @TMatlack clarification question frim last tweet: do you mean attacked by me, or othes in your stream?
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@TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte but when you set out with the idea that men and women are different it hinders that, doesn't it?
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@jennpozner getting pelted by female twitter messages saying I don't get it
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@TMatlack & it is possible 4 ppl not 2 be racist & still be capable of saying less than accurate/sensitive things re race. #thoughtyoudcare
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@jennpozner my point was that some men are afraid to speak up out of fear of female reprisals. Kind of being proven right here.
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@TMatlack And that what makes them "bad" is they have human urges to fuck, eat, drink, and sleep.
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@tmatlack @amandamarcotte @jennpozner it's a mistake to conflate criticism of how men are socialized with hostility towards individual men
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@hugoschwyzer @tmatlack @jennpozner Or to conflate criticism of male privilege with being overbearing and not allowing them to be "men".
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In the article, @TMatlack? That may be true. But all I pointed out was the gender essentialism of your tweet wasn't helpful. Not an attack.
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THIS: RT @hugoschwyzer: @tmatlack it's a mistake to conflate criticism of how men are socialized w/ hostility towards individual men
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@AmandaMarcotte @ewellone I didn't say that.
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@AmandaMarcotte huh? Thought we agreed men and women do those things
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@TMatlack In your article, no. You portray a world where women ride men's asses for having those urges.
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@TMatlack @amandamarcotte @jennpozner our "goodness" as men hinges on our resistance to, not our compliance with, traditional masculinity
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"The best way to overcome fear is to gain competence." @LisaHickey talking about why women fear men: http://t.co/FtQuqxkt
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To add to @hugoschwyzer: also a mistake to generalize about what is/isn't "truly masculine" or mistake critique of that as attack, @TMatlack
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@AmandaMarcotte "I am not interested in the macro here but the micro conversation. How do women view men not in general but in particular?"
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@KimberlyNFoster @AmandaMarcotte @ewellone So you are saying we *should* judge race and genders as a whole?
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Yes, @TMatlack some men r afraid 2speak out against sexism. Areality 4allies. But seeing attacks instead of feedback isn't helpful/accurate.
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@jennpozner interesting "feedback." I really thought the MRA guys were crazy until I engaged the wrath of the feminists. Insane.
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@hugoschwyzer @devilherdue @goodmenproject it's the good "mens" project. women are welcome but the point is to inspire men to be good.
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RT @hugoschwyzer: @TMatlack @amandamarcotte our "goodness" as men hinges on our resistance2, not compliance with, traditional masculinity
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Holy sh*t. RT @TMatlack interesting "feedback." I really thought the MRA guys were crazy until I engaged the wrath of the feminists. Insane.
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I cannot believe you just implied validation for the (violent+misogynist) MRA guys, @TMatlack. Or typed the phrase "wrath of the feminists."
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@jennpozner @tmatlack @amandamarcotte One key thing men need to remember: privilege conceals itself from those who possess it.
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Yes. RT @hugoschwyzer @tmatlack @amandamarcotte One key thing men need to remember: privilege conceals itself from those who possess it.
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Yes, @hugoschwyzer. Another sign of privilege? @TMatlack just implied MRA guys are valid now bec of "wrath of the feminists" @AmandaMarcotte
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@TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte I'm not seeing feminist wrath. MRAs call us "manginas." False equivalence, big time.
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RT @hugoschwyzer: @TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte I'm not seeing feminist wrath. MRAs call us "manginas." False equivalence, big time.
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Right again, @hugoschwyzer. MRA oftn support uber-violent rapists/pedophiles/batterers. My measured feedback makes em less loony, @TMatlack?
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@hugoschwyzer Really? I'm not involved but just read the thread. I see plenty of wrath/name-calling. @TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte
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@DaddyFiles @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @jennpozner The notion that women aren't supposed to be angry when demonized is sexist, sorry.
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TV+radio+film+newspapers+mags+blogs+social media+indy media+zines...RT @EWBrusseau @jennpozner how would u define "media"? #realitybitesback
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@DaddyFiles It's demonizing to portray women as a faceless mass of man-haters who nag men into submission.
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@DaddyFiles @TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte what's the name-calling? "Sexist" is not a slur word. Mangina is.
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Scan my TL from this am to now, @DaddyFiles, no name calling. Only measured critique/feedback. cc @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@hugoschwyzer I saw someone call Tom a "pric." That's name-calling isn't it? @TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. RT @EWBrusseau: @jennpozner thanks! thought your input would be useful for a paper. loved your book!
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@jennpozner Not you, but @lockedaway called him a prick 22 minutes ago. @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@DaddyFiles So, one person calls him a prick, and that what? Invalidates critique? Makes him right? Not seeing it.
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@hugoschwyzer I'm not even sure exactly what mangina is. Who said that? @TMatlack @jennpozner @amandamarcotte
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Perhaps, @DaddyFiles -- but "someone" isn't me. &responding to ME as if I am other women = problem. @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@AmandaMarcotte Was simply pointing out your incorrect statement there was no wrath & name-calling. I'm not taking away anyone's opinion.
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@TMatlack #Icantanymore but hope ppl read ur friend Steve's & my pieces on having convos abt race: http://t.co/1h7Pxyci http://t.co/Q2q87X5G
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@jennpozner What?? All I said was there was name-calling. Not you, just that it existed. Wow... @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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No matter, @DaddyFiles: what someone else called @tmatlack shouldn't color how he speaks to me. @lockedaway @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte
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@jennpozner Perhaps it's this kind of incredible defensiveness to which Tom was alluding. @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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I thought you meant me, @daddyfiles, since the "wrath" quote was something @tmatlack orig tweeted to&about me. @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte
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@AmandaMarcotte Slow down a sec & tell me what EXACTLY you're upset with regarding Tom's article. I want to understand your POV.
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@jennpozner Maybe "wrath" is too strong, but it seems no one can discuss this w/o chip on shoulder. @tmatlack @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte
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Of course. All=media,regardless of print/broadcat/online. RT @OWise @jennpozner That would also include internet, correct? It's mass #media.
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No, @DaddyFiles -- just, no. Read entirety of my & Tom's convo: it's clear I'm not the dfensive one. @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@jennpozner It's unfortunate if I disagree with feminists I'm MRA, but if I criticize MRAs I'm a feminist. Both sides have good/bad points.
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@jennpozner @DaddyFiles @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte as long as men believe we're "under attack" by our own allies, we don't move forward.
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@hugoschwyzer I'm not sure everyone you purport to be an ally actually is. No one who truly believes in the "End of Men" can be an ally.
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@hugoschwyzer And as long as women believe men are constantly out to attack we don't move forward. @jennpozner @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@hugoschwyzer I just fail to see how Tom's piece (whether you agree or not) is an "attack." @jennpozner @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte
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@hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @AmandaMarcotte @jennpozner Agreed, but there is some good in tradition. Needs to be modified to see women as equal.
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@jennpozner @hugoschwyzer @amandamarcotte okay, what do women need to remember, other than don't into cars with men?
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Interesting Q, @TMatlack Women (&men) should remember 2live authentically, not defer 2media/cultural pressure. @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte
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And women (&men) should remember that gendered socializing doesn't have to dictate our behaviors. @TMatlack @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte
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Then RT (grin). That's the core of what I was getting at earlier. RT @TMatlack @hugoschwyzer @AmandaMarcotte *totally* on board with that.
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@hugoschwyzer @jennpozner @DaddyFiles @AmandaMarcotte I disagree w/ @TMatlack but also afraid I will be in similar place in the future.
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Reasonable disagreement shouldn't be viewed as attack, @feministfather. #keeppressingon @hugoschwyzer @DaddyFiles @AmandaMarcotte @TMatlack
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@jennpozner Agreed. But I think you & @AmandaMarcotte don't realize how much some men look up to you. @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack @DaddyFiles
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Allies can't let fear of f*ucking up stop them from supporting justice movements. Nor get defensive @feedback/critique. Allies must listen.
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Equating us w/MRA loons=odd way of showing it...MT @feministfather Agreed. But u& @AmandaMarcotte don't realize how much some men look up 2u
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@jennpozner The one you RT about being on board with you. Didn't want people to think I disagreed with that. I can't DM w/out you following.
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@jennpozner @AmandaMarcotte Yeah, my jaw dropped at that. A men's relationship w/ MRAs is a little different but still amazingly wrong.
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@DaddyFiles You're right. 43 Presidents, and not a one of them was male. This country is such a matriarchy.
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@DaddyFiles That you speak to women like they're children demonstrates you are aware that you're privileged, but not willing to admit it.
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@DaddyFiles Humor is a valid way to make a point. I'm a grown-up, and speaking to me in the scolding tone you use on kids is unacceptable.
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@DaddyFiles Well, from women, anyway, since you clearly believe sarcasm and angry are appropriate feelings and responses for yourself.
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@DaddyFiles Your feigned belief that sexism isn't real is belied by your obsession with policing women for ladylike, deferential behavior.
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@DaddyFiles You're attempted to forbid women anger, and then forbid me sarcasm, which you use in spades yourself. Double standards abound.
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@DaddyFiles Of course you pretend not to know what male privilege is. You're incredibly dependent on it. Well, I reject double standards.
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@jennpozner Do you mean listen and agree? Or listen and hear women out? Had whole tweet written on 1st then realized you might mean 2nd.
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@DaddyFiles Whatever. Screeching that my points are invalid because I used sarcasm or exhibited frustration is policing.
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@DaddyFiles You were the first one to make it about how unladylike the women are being in this discussion, instead of addressing points.
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@DaddyFiles If you spent a little more time listening, and a little less policing women's tone, you might learn something.
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@DaddyFiles Yes you are missing something. Just b/c you see women as equal doesn't mean society treats them as such.
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@DaddyFiles Exactly. You're far more interested in one woman being unladylike than listening or learning from arguments.
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@DaddyFiles Woof, I hope you don't use the same "women are children that need scolding about their manners" tone with her. So gross.
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@DaddyFiles You were always the gross one. Ignoring women's points in order to score points by calling them out on tone is a cheap ploy.
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@AmandaMarcotte @DaddyFiles Is there a "common pitfalls to avoid" article for men starting to learn about feminism? It could go a long way.
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@DaddyFiles Except that all you have done is leveled personal attacks, policing women's tones and not addressing any arguments.
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@feministfather @DaddyFiles Yes, there actually is! http://t.co/zAz2HeTj DaddyFiles is working right out of the playbook, honestly.
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@DaddyFiles We're done. Read this and maybe you can recognize yourself in it. http://t.co/zAz2HeTj Probably not today, but some day.
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@DaddyFiles @AmandaMarcotte Wait? What? Who was I patronizing? You didn't know about male privilege & I want to avoid the others.
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@DaddyFiles Please read this and sleep on it: http://t.co/zAz2HeTj
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@DaddyFiles And I pointed out one: Men have a giant lock on political power. But there are thousands. Millions, probably.
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@DaddyFiles But read that one: your faux naive stance is, I believe, the first entry.
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@DaddyFiles @AmandaMarcotte Read your post again. It can be read asking for examples or read asking what it is. I know I read it the 2nd way
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@DaddyFiles @AmandaMarcotte Read your post again. It can be read asking for examples or read asking what it is. I know I read it the 2nd way
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@AmandaMarcotte Is there a less sarcastic more inviting one? I will read the derailing for dummies but I was hoping for something more.
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@feministfather Not that I know of. Sarcasm is sort of a basic survival skill when you're under assault from derailers.
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2nd. #ally101 RT @feministfather Do u mean listen &agree? Or listen &hear women out? Had tweet written on 1st then realized u might mean 2nd
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@AmandaMarcotte I'm not talking about derailers. I am talking about a handbook for ways men can distinguish themselves from derailers.
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@feministfather I don't know about that. I wouldn't worry so much about it. As long as you acknowledge injustice and avoid deflecting, 1/2
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@feministfather 2/2 you're usually good. But I could maybe see a use for that handbook. Maybe a man should write it.
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@jennpozner Thank you. Glad I caught that in time and didn't start an argument I didn't really want.
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Good men have to defend masculinity. Just as feminists have to defend womanhood. We all need to work to expand the definitions of both.
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Oh, hell, me too. RT @feministfather hank you. Glad I caught that in time and didn't start an argument I didn't really want.
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2more: Pro #ally Con #derail MT @shiratarrant Masculinity, feminism, men keywords: #essentialism #privilege #binary @TMatlack @hugoschwyzer
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Systemic privilege. (4ex: Gender/race/class) RT @DaddyFiles @TomHeadLovesYou What "privilege" are we talking about? @hugoschwyzer @TMatlack
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@DaddyFiles True, Twitter convos can devolve. But I've been measured+contemplative as I engaged all day. Too tired to continue offline.
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@DaddyFiles But for some great #ally101 #feminism101 #masculinity101 info, tons of resources by @hugoschwyzer @shiratarrant & NOMAS.
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Honest debate I engage. Attempts to bait me to increase your Twitter profile? Sorry, #notfallingforit. Esp if "notorious" is in your handle.
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@jennpozner please read this: http://t.co/eVT3D3S8
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@jennpozner huh? this is a new article by our CEO, a woman, talking about being a rape victim
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.@TMatlack, vry glad posts on yr site discuss how genderd expectations hurt men. But tweeting URL instd of dealing w/ #allyFAIL? #Deflection
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@jennpozner Not sure what you mean. The last couple of tweets we were in violent agreement so I thought we are Okay.
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@jennpozner " @jennpozner That's the core of what I was getting at earlier. RT @TMatlack *totally* on board with that." Last tweet I saw...
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@jennpozner I *do* think that Hugo, you and others were off base with your critique of rape, gender, race and any number of other things
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@jennpozner I didn't take it personally. I consider myself a feminist. But apparently that word has many meanings.
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@jennpozner not sure what you want me to cop to. your "feedback" was rather harsh IMO. But it's okay to disagree. I value your opinion
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Still, @TMatlack? You keep conflating ME (& my comments to you about you words) with other things other people said to you.
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A response to the @goodmenproject male guilt section, and to me, from @lisahickey http://t.co/z6vWSrYw
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What 2 cop 2, @TMatlack? Reread our convo 1st to last (just my tweets&yours). I never attacked, u constantly deflected, then MRA&wrath line.
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@jennpozner no I'm not. you started by lecturing me on my "binary tweeting" without reading my post and went on from there.
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@jennpozner You missed my point and kept RT Hugo when he went on the attack
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Of course reasonable people disagree @TMatlack. But allies listen w/out defensiveness, engage not deflect, &don't conflate 1woman w/all wmn.
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@jennpozner I never deflected anything. I responded to every single tweet, yours and other. I thought you, and others, were out of line.
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@jennpozner at the moment you continue to attack me for deflecting and being defensive well after I was willing to put this behind us.
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Tweets have own context, @TMatlack. The post = separate from yr words on Twitter. &: telling that u view respectful critique as "lecturing."
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Replying 2my tweets by reacting 2 othr wmn's comments is not same as dealing w/my feedback, @TMatlack. I never attacked u; u went pro-MRA.
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I'm uninterested in Twitter fueds @TMatlack. I do have a problem with the idea that measured feedback is automatically an attack, & (1of2)
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@jennpozner I never went "pro-MRA". They called me a Mangina about a thousand times over by now.
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2of2 @TMatlack I's a problem 2claim 2challenge gendered expectations, but then positively plug MRA & rant about "feminist wrath." #ImDoneNow
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@jennpozner I did get some serious feminist (not my mom's kind of feminist, nor mine but Hugo's) wrath today which is fine.
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@jennpozner I never "plugged" the MRA. I said I thought they were bad (because they attack me constantly) but this was just as bad.
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@jennpozner "I really thought the MRA guys were crazy until ..." was what I said. You might want to look at this: http://t.co/KqvQtZdV
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I know what u said, @TMatlack, I RT'd it. u positioned MRA as opp 2me, &in same catgry as "wrath of the feminists." That's deeply wrong.
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@TMatlack @jennpozner wish I could see an example of where any feminist in this discussion has used hate speech
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@jennpozner read my mangina piece. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. let's both try better.
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@hugoschwyzer @jennpozner just when I thought we were done Hugo. I don't know if we need to rehash. suffice it to say we disagree.
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I'm sorry u think I have not been trying, @TMatlack. I have been. It gets exhausting to have to try this hard w/allies, actually. #TiredJenn
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@TMatlack If MRA guys aren't crazy then what are they? Logical? Well-argued? Sane but wrong? Right about wrath of feminists? @jennpozner
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@feministfather @jennpozner please I beg you read this: http://t.co/KqvQtZdV I am not somehow endorsing the MRA. shesh.
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@rugcernie @amandamarcotte "men's rights activist"
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A sexist double-standard: Assuming he is assertive and she is attacking. #Feminism101 @TMatlack @jennpozner @hugoschwyzer
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